Comments on: Deterministic World http://www.toddhester.net/rantings/2006/07/05/deterministic-world/ Random articles, thoughts, ideas, musings, rantings, and more from me!! Sun, 20 May 2012 00:33:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.1 by: Todd Hester http://www.toddhester.net/rantings/2006/07/05/deterministic-world/#comment-609 Sat, 28 Oct 2006 23:38:52 +0000 http://www.toddhester.net/rantings/2006/07/05/deterministic-world/#comment-609 Hi Edward, Thanks for the interesting info. Did it seem to you as if they were basically the same person? Did they act as individuals or was it more like the two of them formed a single consciousness? -Todd Hi Edward,

Thanks for the interesting info. Did it seem to you as if they were basically the same person? Did they act as individuals or was it more like the two of them formed a single consciousness?

-Todd

]]> by: Edward Castle-Herbert http://www.toddhester.net/rantings/2006/07/05/deterministic-world/#comment-584 Fri, 27 Oct 2006 16:50:29 +0000 http://www.toddhester.net/rantings/2006/07/05/deterministic-world/#comment-584 Sorry Todd,but I experienced some problems with my computer whilst adding some information on the Chapman twins.I have a number of other observations regarding their methods of communication both in words and at the non verbal level.I mentioned their apparent unawareness of personal space.Both would usually stand so close to me that they were practically touching.Most people find this quite uncomfortable and I was not unusual in this regard.In addition both of them are quite short{I am only 5ft 5inches myself} and they would be looking up at me and talking at a strange whining pitch{some might say buzz saw like}.I formed the distinct impression after careful listening that they did not talk precisely in unison but one cued the other{I could never tell which one was which}nor whether it was always the same one who took the lead.I have never seen any other mention of this and it is not in anyway scientifically validated ,but that was my impression.Hope these comments may interest you.Contact me should you have any questions.Edward. Sorry Todd,but I experienced some problems with my computer whilst adding some information on the Chapman twins.I have a number of other observations regarding their methods of communication both in words and at the non verbal level.I mentioned their apparent unawareness of personal space.Both would usually stand so close to me that they were practically touching.Most people find this quite uncomfortable and I was not unusual in this regard.In addition both of them are quite short{I am only 5ft 5inches myself} and they would be looking up at me and talking at a strange whining pitch{some might say buzz saw like}.I formed the distinct impression after careful listening that they did not talk precisely in unison but one cued the other{I could never tell which one was which}nor whether it was always the same one who took the lead.I have never seen any other mention of this and it is not in anyway scientifically validated ,but that was my impression.Hope these comments may interest you.Contact me should you have any questions.Edward.

]]> by: Edward Castle-Herbert http://www.toddhester.net/rantings/2006/07/05/deterministic-world/#comment-583 Fri, 27 Oct 2006 16:31:12 +0000 http://www.toddhester.net/rantings/2006/07/05/deterministic-world/#comment-583 Dear Todd,whilst doing a search for the twins Greta and Freda Chapman I came across your site.I thought therefore that I might add something or at least an impression of them to any discussion about them as I actually worked with them for a brief while during the 80s whilst a Psychiatric Groupworker in Londons East End.I have no idea whether they were or not mentally ill or not as opinion seems to be divided about this.They certainly were two of the strangest people I have ever met without a doubt.It is often said that they spoke in unison and rarely independently.For myself I never heard any independent speech,others experience however may not reflect mine.So far however I have yet to read any account of this speech,so people may assume that they merely spoke in unison in an otherwise normal way.This was not so.Their speech was fast,drone like and uninflected and quite hard to follow due to the manner of its production.It was actually very hard to hear without "tuning out" on them andone had to make a very deliberate effort to focus on the content and not the process.They would also lean right into ones personal space as they seemed unaware of proximity issues.Edward. Dear Todd,whilst doing a search for the twins Greta and Freda Chapman I came across your site.I thought therefore that I might add something or at least an impression of them to any discussion about them as I actually worked with them for a brief while during the 80s whilst a Psychiatric Groupworker in Londons East End.I have no idea whether they were or not mentally ill or not as opinion seems to be divided about this.They certainly were two of the strangest people I have ever met without a doubt.It is often said that they spoke in unison and rarely independently.For myself I never heard any independent speech,others experience however may not reflect mine.So far however I have yet to read any account of this speech,so people may assume that they merely spoke in unison in an otherwise normal way.This was not so.Their speech was fast,drone like and uninflected and quite hard to follow due to the manner of its production.It was actually very hard to hear without “tuning out” on them andone had to make a very deliberate effort to focus on the content and not the process.They would also lean right into ones personal space as they seemed unaware of proximity issues.Edward.

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